{"id":4985,"date":"2020-08-25T08:00:19","date_gmt":"2020-08-25T14:00:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/?p=4985"},"modified":"2024-12-27T11:35:55","modified_gmt":"2024-12-27T17:35:55","slug":"stovepipe-malfunctions-and-other-1911-or-any-magazine-problems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/stovepipe-malfunctions-and-other-1911-or-any-magazine-problems\/","title":{"rendered":"Stovepipe Malfunctions and Other 1911 (or any) Magazine Problems"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Even if you are not a fan of single action only (SAO) pistols, there is no denying the staying power and the reliability of the 1911. A correctly made 1911, that is in good repair, simply works. But what happens when it doesn\u2019t? In my experience, 90% or more of the reliability issues with 1911s are the fault of the magazine: think magazine induced stovepipe malfunction or a push feed jam. Lets look at a few failures (particularly failure to feed) that can be caused by the magazine \u2014 and more importantly, what to do about it.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4988\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4988\" style=\"width: 751px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4988 lazyload\" title=\"1911 magazine examples: Feed lips and other mag parts can cause a malfunction if not maintained.\" data-src=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/IMG_7491-e1537065972446.jpg\" alt=\"1911 magazine examples: Feed lips and other mag parts can cause a malfunction if not maintained.\" width=\"751\" height=\"714\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 751px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 751\/714;\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4988\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Three different 1911 magazines. Note the different shapes on the feed lips. The one on the right is an original two toned Colt.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>This article is from September of 2018.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>This might seem obvious to some, but when is the last time you took apart your magazines and cleaned them?<\/p>\n<p>Not just your 1911 mags either \u2014 <em>any&nbsp;<\/em>of your mags.<\/p>\n<p>Cleaning is an often-neglected part of firearm maintenance. Your mags tend to get dumped into the bottom of a range bag, or carried in a pouch, or just left setting on the shelf while your gun is tucked away in the safe. This can create problems, because all of those places are going to make your mags collect dust, dirt and other grime.<\/p>\n<p>So if you are having a magazine issue with any gun, try taking apart your mags and giving them a good cleaning before you start looking for issues with the firearm itself.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4986\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4986\" style=\"width: 752px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4986 lazyload\" title=\"1911 magazine induced stovepipe malfunction.\" data-src=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/IMG_7487-e1537065938119.jpg\" alt=\"1911 magazine induced stovepipe malfunction.\" width=\"752\" height=\"567\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/IMG_7487-e1537065938119.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/IMG_7487-e1537065938119-300x226.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/IMG_7487-e1537065938119-1024x772.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/IMG_7487-e1537065938119-768x579.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/IMG_7487-e1537065938119-150x113.jpg 150w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 752px) 100vw, 752px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 752px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 752\/567;\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4986\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A 1911 with stovepipe malfunction: also likely the result of a dirty or damaged magazine.&nbsp;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The \u201cStove Pipe\u201d(stovepipe malfunction) is almost always a magazine issue. This is where the slide out runs the magazine, meaning the round doesn\u2019t get pushed up in time to meet the slide. This usually occurs on the last or next to last round in a magazine. The cause is typically a weak magazine spring not pushing round up hard enough. The only real fix is to replace the spring. <a href=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/brands\/wilson-combat\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wilson Combat<\/a> makes great replacement parts for a wide range of 1911 mags.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2b07\ufe0f<\/strong> <em>More below some mag suggestions.<\/em><strong> \u2b07\ufe0f<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_47715\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-47715\" style=\"width: 751px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-47715 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45-magazines-officer-model-1024x484.jpg\" alt=\"Colt 1911 officers model .45 ACP magazines\" width=\"751\" height=\"355\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45-magazines-officer-model-1024x484.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45-magazines-officer-model-300x142.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45-magazines-officer-model-768x363.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45-magazines-officer-model-400x189.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45-magazines-officer-model.jpg 1286w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 751px) 100vw, 751px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 751px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 751\/355;\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-47715\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/colt-1911-officer-dfr-45-acp-7-round-stainless-steel-magazine.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Colt 1911 officers model\/DFM .45 ACP magazines (steel, 7-round capacity)<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_47716\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-47716\" style=\"width: 751px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-47716 lazyload\" title=\"GI mags: Colt 1911 in steel\" data-src=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45_magazines-1024x484.jpg\" alt=\"GI mags: Colt 1911 in steel\" width=\"751\" height=\"355\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45_magazines-1024x484.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45_magazines-300x142.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45_magazines-768x363.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45_magazines-400x189.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Colt-1911-45_magazines.jpg 1286w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 751px) 100vw, 751px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 751px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 751\/355;\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-47716\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/colt-gi-1911-45-acp-7-round-magazine.html\">GI mags: Colt 1911 45 (steel, 7-round capacity)<\/a>; check on &#8217;em in the warehouse.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_47731\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-47731\" style=\"width: 780px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-47731 lazyload\" title=\"1911 10 round magazine\" data-src=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/1911-10-round-magazine-1024x484.jpg\" alt=\"1911 10 round magazine\" width=\"780\" height=\"369\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/1911-10-round-magazine-1024x484.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/1911-10-round-magazine-300x142.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/1911-10-round-magazine-768x363.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/1911-10-round-magazine-400x189.jpg 400w, https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/1911-10-round-magazine.jpg 1286w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 780px) 100vw, 780px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 780px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 780\/369;\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-47731\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Want to up your 1911 round count? <a href=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/promag-1911-45-acp-10-round-government-commander-magazine-blued-steel.html\">Take a look a the ProMag 1911 10 round magazine<\/a>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr>\n<p>Another common failure is called a push feed. This is where the extractor doesn\u2019t catch the round and the gun does not go into battery. This is also usually from a soft magazine spring. But if you have it happen on the last round, check the follower. 1911 mags should have a small raised dimple on the follower to help hold the last round in the mag until it is picked up by the slide. Smooth followers are notorious for letting the last round go early from the recoil. The 8 round mags are usually the ones with the smooth followers. Replacing the spring and\/or the follower is the trick to fixing this issue.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4987\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4987\" style=\"width: 748px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4987 lazyload\" title=\"Extractor issues causing a 1911 push feed.\" data-src=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/IMG_7490-e1537065955704.jpg\" alt=\"Extractor issues causing a 1911 push feed.\" width=\"748\" height=\"677\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 748px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 748\/677;\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4987\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">It is a little hard to see, this is the best photo I could get, but the extractor is setting on the back of a cartridge case. This keeps the slide from going into battery. Beware of smooth followers!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Of course you could always go buy some new <a href=\"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/all-magazines\/handguns\/magazines-183\/1911-magazines\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1911 magazines<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>This has been just an overview. If you&#8217;d like to discuss further, hit us up in the comments and we&#8217;ll address things in a follow-up article.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re interested in some other perspectives, check out Range Hot and\/or Gunbelts.com.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The stovepipe malfunctions and &#8220;push feed&#8221; jams are two kinds of problems that can be induced by a 1911 magazine (or any mag, really): here&#8217;s what to do.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":4986,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[308,515],"class_list":["post-4985","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-industry-insights","tag-magazine-maintenance","tag-1911-magazines"],"small_media_thumbnail":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/09\/IMG_7487-e1537065938119-300x226.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4985","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/14"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4985"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4985\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":270784,"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4985\/revisions\/270784"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4986"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4985"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4985"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/gunmagwarehouse.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4985"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}